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This is very sad, I've moved your post to it's own thread, as I believe it deserves that.
You reported to the police that your daughter, who was an invalid, was the victim of domestic violence, but they did nothing, is that what you are saying?
I believe that something should be done, but first could you give us a few more details.
How old was your daughter and what was she suffering from? What was the cause of death, on her death certificate? Was a doctor seeing her? What form did the domestic violence take? What do you believe the police should have done? What could you have done, now in hindsight, to have prevented her death?
Sorry if these questions are harsh, but to point you in the right direction we need to ask.
Thank you MartinO.
Yes we reported to police twice in the one week and we were told there was nothing they could do saying "it was NOT their area" I knew we were being fobbed off but what can one do?
My daughter was 50 years old and had one young child. Yes she had two doctors seeing her and that is another story beyond belief.One doctor is already in question on another serious case conserning many women. I hesitate to put details on here for all to read but would love to send details privately.
Domestic violence was sheer mental abuse screaming at her when on the phone to tell family never to phone again and NO family were allowed access to her not even on the day of the funeral as we were not told she had died. Not feeding her and suffering dehydration her basic needs were not met. My daughter asked her day carers to lodge complaints but still nothing happened.
The only thing in hindsight we could of done was to get the media involved before her death but that is not easy in small country towns.We went to police, legal aid,a solicitor, clerk of the court, aging and disabilities, home care,guardianship tribunal,and to one of her doctors where else could we go to? I believe the police should of taken some action to protect my daughter but because they knew the people concerned (including my daughter)did not want to cause ripples they just wanted us out of their town.
I fear for my grandson and have reported to Docs but nothing has happened. We need some sort of help.
Again I'm very sorry that this happened to your daughter, when you reported this to the police what was it you wished them to do?
Did you make a complaint to any other authority? If so who?
I am presuming that she was bedridden, is that the case? Did she die as a result of her illness or from the abuse? Was her partner receiving any support to care for her?
I presume it was her partner that you were complaining about? If so and the police had taken out an AVO against him, who would have cared for your daughter?
Were you in a position to care for her at your place?
We were under the impression that the police would see it as a domestic violence situation and take the appropiate action for someone in my daughters suituation. We are talking about a small town whereby many professional people have colluded in the past to support the cover up of one of Australias most horrific medical abuse cases.This town is already clouded in shame and my daughter was cared for by two of the same professionals currently being investigated regarding this case.
Every single disabilities abuse hotline and group in the state were contacted. The Guardianship Tribunal, The Department of Aging and Disabilites and home care in the area, Social workers in the area,local disabilities support groups, disabilities advocates, etc, etc. The suituation disturbed some of these people and they tried to help (some knew of the abuse as my daughter had asked them for help some months prior ) but when the professionals ranks doors closed, my daughter was in lock down and without police help no one could get to her.The police fully supported the entire process and treated me with utter distain!!!!
Bedriddeb yes, but of sound and agile mind.She died as a direct result of the abuse, this is why there are three lies on the Death Certificate. The abuse had to be covered up. Carers five days per week for 2 hours a day, respite, family help, other professionals.But a lot of offers of support were denied in the latter months prior to my daughter's death due to the deliberate isolation of my daughter.
I am complaining about the partner and professionals who supported the partner to do this. Three close family members including myself were willing to take and care for her.
This is terrible, and yes you should follow it through.
You can complain to the Queensland Medical Board click here. For the inadequate medical treatment.
And you could complain to the CJC for the lack of police action.
Could I suggest that you use a solicitor to write these complaints, that way they may be taken more seriously. Use a local solicitor if you can find one, but if not a trip into Brisbane and a visit to the Caxton Legal Centre may help for details click here. (The web site is down at the moment but try later) or phone 3257 1337 for an appointment.
You will need to be persistent, note how long the Bundaberg case took to get to court and initially people were fobbed off also.
For your late daughters sake, good luck.
Again many thanks. Must tell you that my daughter lived in N.S.W. I live in Qld. Also my grandson (who has a disability)is in the hands of the person who decided on my daughters demise. This worries me a lot but DOC's have not done a thing.I have read many cases and it seems to take five to seven years to come to court I will still be around to see that day.
Sorry Willy, not ignoring you, it's just I have nothing further to add. Unfortunately the likelihood of another coming along with precisely your experience is slight, for a start we do not have your daughters details clearly.
Have you spoken to your doctor about her condition? Have you consulted the legal service I suggested, have you sent off complaints to the NSW equivalents of the bodies I mentioned above?
Following this through will not be easy, and just getting others experiences will not do a lot to sort yours out. If you follow through on the above, and then when a hurdle is placed in your way, you asses if it is a valid hurdle and if not, make further complaints to either the same body or another body whose information you get from any knock back.
If you want others to help, it may aid them if you advise the disease your daughter suffered, and the actual cause of death on the certificate. And any details of the treatment she was receiving.
My daughters death certificate said Multiple sclerosis, which she had but it is also well known that one does not die fron that unles one has a severe secondary sympton which my daughter did NOT have until she was taken off ALL medication by her partner and doctors.
"Extensive bilateral deep vein thrombosis, 2 years," She only had this because of NO medication.
"Hypostatic aspiration pneumonia 2 weeks." ELEVEN days before her death we had a phone link up with Guardingship Tribunal and the doctor was asked what was worng with her and he did NOT mention any of the above.
Three days before she died she spoke to her Nanna on the phone and if she had Pneumonia no way could she of held a conversation and there was NO sign of it at the tribunal link up. Her story is full of lies. We did go to her doctor and he told us she was on Morphine palative care and should of died twelve months ago and it won't be long now. My daughter was NOT told what was going on, she said to her siblings I'm scared, I don't know what they are doing to me and they will not tell me anything.
She was isolated from family no visits permited not even when in hospital and no phone calls except the one to her very old nanna.
The guardingship Tribunal made the ruling that my daughter was of clear mind and could make her own decisions regarding her medications, but she was not given any. she also suffered from dehydration and malnutrition. (lack of care)
Yes Martin I have contacted the services you recomended except the solicitor as I hesitate because of cost. My daughter had asked for a treatment of Prokaren and the doctor said he would write the prescription then three days later he refused as it had been decided to continue the course of no medication and end her life. Her partner had told two of her sisters that he "wanted to get on with his life". She did NOT have the best chance of survival once the doctors put everything in place.
OK, your concern seems valid, run this by your doctor, just to make sure that what has been placed on the death certificate and what you know of your own knowledge are not compatible. If the doctor expresses doubts see a solicitor to explore the best approach to prosecuting this case.
Good luck Willy, it won't be easy, and you will be fobbed off, but you need to try (and you may fail) but you owe it to your late daughter to give it a go.
I am related to Willy and I witnessed this situation personally. I would like to know if anyone can suggest where to go regarding having the WHOLE situation investigated. There is evidence in other departments that are not under the duristriction of the HCCC. Who investigtes them?Is it the Ombudsmen. And who investigates the carer? People are scared to talk not ony because they may lose their jobs as a result but because two of the people involved are extremely volatile and threatening individuals. One has been labled by government psychiatrists as having narcissistic psycopath personality disorder. We have been told by a supportive organisation, that we have to get written statements from professionals involved in the case. What would be the best way to approach this considering these people are aware of and actually fear two of the pepetrators. I fear for my life when I am in their vicinity, I have been physically attacked by one of them, so has Willy. These perpetrators are perfectly sweet and charming one second and controlling, angry and violent the next! They have absolutely no regard for human life. Medical records would show that my relative was being starved and denied fluids for up to 12 months prior to her death (constant admissions to hosp suffering both malnutrition and dehydration. She would come good and put on weight in hosp, then go home and lose it all and have to go back into hosp again.) Medical records would show many things, too many to go in to here. The HCCC say that they need the next of kins signature to access the records. The next of kin is the main perpetrator! I have asked the HCCC what can be done in this situation and have not received a response. Th HCCC mostly give the perpetrators all the evidence they need to fool authorities and deflect allegations. One professional person questioned the carer and was verbally attacked so violenty that it caused a major disturbance in the middle of a healthcare building. I appealed to the Manager of the govt organisation who had access to my realative's case records which would prove that my relative had actually had nursing staff put a complaint of abuse regarding her carer in to a Case manager some 12 months prior. The Manager had already been threatened by one of the perpetrators. Not only was he too scared to speak to me but he stopped a full police investigation because the two dangerous perpetrators would be on his back if they found out he was responsible. He would have to leave town, so he would lose his job...and this is what it comes down to when relying on information from other professionals in the town.
This is too complex for me, you need some good legal help here, by someone versed in medical/legal matters. Caxton legal may be able to point you in the right direction.
Did the woman make a "do not revive" request? If so this would need to have been made in the presence of her doctor, of her own volition, and legally drawn up. It is possible that she was in so much pain/anguish, that she decided to stop taking her medication and to stop eating/drinking. With the aim to bring about her end? I know that this will be hard to take if true, and if not, having me suggest it will be painful/offensive, sorry, but I need you to consider this as a possible reason for the chain of events.
The statement in an earlier post, "The guardingship Tribunal made the ruling that my daughter was of clear mind and could make her own decisions regarding her medications", that decision may have been to stop taking them.
I know this is hard to beieve - but she did not want to die and voiced this strongy. When questioned she had no idea why she had her medication taken off her and was distressed by this. She had other medical options available and was looking forward to trying a new one, when the famiy was shut out and a murder took place. That simple and that horrific. I now know true evil. To meet with 2 of the perpetrators is to feel the most unnerving sense of fear. People just do what they want and get as far away from them as they can. There are too many incidents and too much evidence to expose here. There are witnesses to the abuse, which was evident and documented for 12 months prior to the murder, and consisted of a slow and deliberate neglect which caused ill health and hospitalisation. Medical records alone would show many discrepancies and witnesses and reports from govt agencies would reveal that health care workers had tried to do something about the abuse but were so threatened by the abuser that they or their superiors decided against any action.The risk of losing their jobs if they open theair mouths is very real.
Thank you for bringing me up to date, you will need evidence for this, and if you have it a murder case could be launched, the evidence could be in the form of letters from her or if two or more of you heard her state this. You are going to need the help of a solicitor to bring a complaint and it won't be easy. Consider how long it took for a whole committee of people to get the Bundaberg Doctor charged.
A call to the Caxton people may be a start, it may be out of their league but they may be able to point you in the right direction.
Martin, We really appreciate your time and input. I will be away for the next 3 weeks and will have very little contact with anyone but we are working as hard as we know how to get others involved for evidence. We have known for some time it's there but getting others to talk is another thing and we will never give up my daughter deserves that.
I am trying to get my daughters medical records from a nsw. hospital but having trouble as they say I was not her legal guardian only her mother, their laws do not allow for them to be passed onto me. Do hospitals have their own laws? it does not sound right to me. She was not married to her carer only a defacto. Please advise me. Thank you. Willy.