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  Quote tantan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Laughable...
    Posted: 19/September/2011 at 09:05
This makes me laugh, my partners ex's is required to pay CS. This is due he has been out of work for over 5 months.

She paid one months when it was due. (the first one). He finally got a job started last week. CS was due again, he asked her when she is paying. She turned around and said you have a nerve asking me for CS you have a job.

Even we he lost his job he continued to CS up until July.

Just makes me laugh that people are like that.

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  Quote boony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19/September/2011 at 14:50
In some European countries even if the ex dies the children from the second marrriage have to pay maintenance to the wife of the first marriage 0.o

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  Quote AsiaOilDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19/September/2011 at 15:15
This might be sexist (well actually it is) but he's a man and as such needs to provide. I take pride in providing, to be a user and depend on a woman would mean I'd need a orchiectomy.

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  Quote tantan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20/September/2011 at 08:56
he is not being a user at all, he is providing for his children, his paying for all school fees, uniform etc. He is following what he is supposed to do and that was inform CSA. He was made redundant, it's not like he quit.

So that's unfair saying that. Yes he finally landed a job,
But she will quick to put out her hand for him to pay CS and all school fees like usual.

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  Quote jaazzz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20/September/2011 at 09:08
Originally posted by tantan

his paying for all school fees, uniform etc.... she will quick to put out her hand for him to pay CS and all school fees like usual.


If your partner isn't already aware, payments such as school fees, school uniform and book fees in most cases can be credited as 'prescribed payments' & deducted from his normal liability amount even if the other party dosen't agree to this.

For more info, see here If parents don’t agree about a payment









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  Quote tantan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2011 at 12:27
Jaazzz,
We applied for the above through CS, but it got knocked back, due to he has 50% custody. We also informed CS that she has had a big pay increase ( he ex told that to us). She hasn't even loged her tax return.

CS is interesting when you pay and pay up and beyond the prescribed. You still get knocked back.

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  Quote dad-in-distress Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2011 at 14:07
On the sexist point, our whole society is sexist. Men are expected within marriage and out of marriage, to be the responsible ones, and when they're not we condemn them fairly harshly (deadbeat dad's, CSA wage garnishing, etc).

When a woman breaks up a family, "because her sensitive sexual needs arent being met", its ok, its her right to do so.

I think it should that who takes the kids, takes ALL the responsibility for them, including paying for them. Fewer women would leave thier husbands if so, and fewer men would be living in misery caused by someone else.

This is happening to a degree already, how many men stop working, commit suicide, declare no income, or avoid CS in some other way - already?

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  Quote AsiaOilDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2011 at 14:34
One of the major factors leading to the decline of Western society is that a lot of feminists believe that deep down inside, fathers don't really care all that much about their kids. They minimise the emotions of men and their role in families.

This leads to it being acceptable, and then normal for men to be denied access to their own children, to suffer from draconian laws favoring the mother and putting the father into nothing more than slavery, and to favor women in most cases of dispute.

The result is that men withdraw their participation and support from a society they can tell no longer values them.

The end result of this will be the collapse of society and the rebirth of a new one after a period of chaos in which men are once again given the rights within a family that encourages them to work for the betterment of their family and society
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  Quote jaazzz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/November/2011 at 16:33
Originally posted by tantan

Jaazzz,
We applied for the above through CS, but it got knocked back, due to he has 50% custody.


That's right, the payer has to be on regular care (14% or less) otherwise it will only be accepted by agreement between the parties.

Quote from the link I provided for you .... We only credit prescribed payments if the paying parent has less than 14 per cent (regular) care for all the chidren of the assessment.

This is because if you have more than 14 per cent care of any of the children, the direct costs you incur when you care for the children are recognised in the child support formula.

If both parents agree the prescribed payment was made for the purpose of child support, then the payment can be credited as a direct or third party payment regardless of your percentage of care....






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  Quote LarissaK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/November/2011 at 09:57
Originally posted by dad-in-distress

When a woman breaks up a family, "because her sensitive sexual needs arent being met", its ok, its her right to do so.

I think it should that who takes the kids, takes ALL the responsibility for them, including paying for them. Fewer women would leave thier husbands if so, and fewer men would be living in misery caused by someone else.

I am sure Dad in Distress that you are not implying that all marriages break up because the woman leaves the man and because her sexual needs aren't being met? Could it be you are talking about your own marriage only?

Can I ask what you would propose for a woman who leaves a man because he cheated on her and fathered twins while still married? Should she have stayed otherwise leave and be fully financiall responsible for the children?

Of course I presume you are implying that if a woman leaves her husband takes full financial responsibilty for the children because she left, she should still however give the husband 50% shared care, or are do you think full responsibility also means that they husband that got left should not be seeing the children?

Do you think you might be just ever so slightly biased? is this not a forum for legal advice not moral advice and opinions?

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  Quote tj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/November/2011 at 09:58
Originally posted by dad-in-distress



I think it should that who takes the kids, takes ALL the responsibility for them, including paying for them. Fewer women would leave their husbands if so, and fewer men would be living in misery caused by someone else.



So therefore, it is OK for a man to decide when his wife is 6 months pregnant with an IVF baby- IVF babies are NO accident- that he does not really want a child after all. It is then OK for a man to walk away with no financial responsibility and to deny the child any part of his standard of living. He can just refuse to be a part of the child's life as he wishes and go along on his merry way. Expecting the mother to bring up the child on her own, with no financial assistance. Paying for everything. Doing it all while she reduces her working hours to fit in with the needs of a child. Has to pay for sitters if she wants the occasional evening off etc... While he can go out every night of the week of he want to with no responsibility.

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